Their companies are valued at $35B combined. They talk AI, jobs & robots.

In The 1 on 1 with CNN, two influential leaders come together for an intimate conversation about the moments, decisions, and ideas that shaped their paths — and what's next.

Rivian CEO and founder RJ Scaringe and OpenAI Chairman Bret Taylor work in different industries. RJ in cars. Bret in tech. But increasingly they are both working with artificial intelligence.

Both have recently founded AI companies. Sierra is Bret’s firm, and it’s focused on building bespoke AI agents for companies like Rivian to use for customer service. Mind Robotics is RJ’s startup that is building AI-powered robots for manufacturing. In this conversation the two discuss AI’s impact on the digital world and push into the physical environment, including with fully self-driving capabilities in cars.

They also share their perspectives on how AI is changing how we work and explain what they are telling their kids about the value of learning in an age when AI models are getting increasingly capable of doing complex tasks.

0:00 Intro
0:40 RJ Scaringe on starting Rivian
3:45 Bret Taylor’s path from Google maps creator to AI founder
5:51 Advice for entrepreneurs working on AI
7:32 How Rivian is building cars in the AI era
8:54 How AI is upending the software industry
11:53 RJ Scaringe on where we are with fully autonomous cars
14:39 The challenge of bringing AI into the physical world
16:30 RJ Scaringe on his AI robotics company, Mind Robotics
18:48 Bret Taylor on how AI will impact jobs
22:35 What they tell their kids about AI

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