Joey's Girl-Dad CRISIS, Kate's Design SECRET & Why we're DONE People-Pleasing

This week, Joey had a full girl-dad existential spiral after realizing he can’t actually protect our daughter from the male gaze, which turned into a larger parenting conversation about raising our kids to create systemic change. We also answer a listener question about Kate’s uncanny ability to design spaces that feel perfectly personal: design intuition, empathy, or maybe some inherited psychic abilities. Plus, we dive into the Fourth Wing series and other romantasy books Joey has read, and Kate shares the moment she channeled some serious Fire Horse energy to confront someone who crossed a boundary. Leave us a comment — yay or nay on ponytails for men?

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