Can Europe and MAGA coexist? | Berlin Briefing Podcast live from MSC 2026
Did US Secretary of State Marco Rubio just send Europe a political Valentine's card? And after all the ups and downs, are Europeans ready to rebuild trust in their longtime partner? How do Germany and its European allies protect their interests and wield their leverage in a multipolar world, in which they depend on both the US and China?In a special episode recorded live at the Munich Security Conference, Berlin Briefing hosts Michaela Küfner and Nina Haase dissect the Merz government’s approach with CDU/CSU Chief Whip Jens Spahn and the Eurasia Group’s Ian Bremmer.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
00:41 Rubio reaction
04:36 A sustainable Ukraine peace?
08:48 Painful compromises
12:06 Germany needs economic growth
15:17 Rebuilding US-European trust
18:17 China tensions
21:32 Europe’s leverage
24:26 An uncomfortable choice
30:05 Common dreams, different nightmares
30:35 Family analogies
32:27 A nuanced transatlantic approach
35:58 Multipolar rocket fuel
37:52 Trump's lasting impact
40:07 A look into the future
44:08 Outro
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