We made a fantasy draft of the 2028 presidential race | America, Actually

Who has a good shot at becoming president in 2028? Vox Media podcaster and journalist Kara Swisher and independent journalist and political commentator Don Lemon join Vox’s Astead Herndon for a fantasy draft of the Democratic and Republican fields, making the case for who could emerge as each party’s nominee.

They debate everyone from JD Vance and Kamala Harris to Tucker Carlson and Lemon himself, while discussing the issues that are shaping the next presidential election, including electability, Donald Trump’s influence and who can actually win in an ever-evolving digital media landscape.

00:00 Why the 2028 race could be the messiest yet
02:24 The Republican fantasy draft
04:13 Is Marco Rubio the GOP's safest bet?
05:35 The surprising case for Tucker Carlson
07:12 JD Vance divides the panel
09:09 RFK Jr., Donald Trump (again), and the outsider candidates
12:55 Could Ivanka Trump inherit the MAGA movement?
14:37 The Republican long shots
18:05 The Democratic fantasy draft
19:00 Gavin Newsom or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Who’s the No. 1 pick?
21:35 Can Kamala Harris make a comeback?
24:15 Mark Cuban, Wes Moore & other outsiders
28:30 Don Lemon’s wildest 2028 pick? Himself.
30:36 Josh Shapiro and the moderate lane
32:55 George Clooney enters the draft
34:35 Raphael Warnock and the final picks
37:15 What we learned about the 2028 race

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