How To Defeat an Empire: The Post-Hegemonic World Is Shaping Up | Dr. Jeff Rich
In Istanbul, historian Jeff Rich joins Pascal to discuss what a peaceful multipolar world could look like. They debate civilisation states, China–India relations, and the tension between sovereignty and global interdependence. Rich argues that states must challenge US unilateralism while strengthening practical cooperation under the UN Charter. The conversation explores BRICS, regional diplomacy around the Strait of Hormuz, Ukraine’s reconstruction, and the limits of military power, ending with reflections on Václav Havel and ordinary people’s capacity to create change.Jeff's Links:
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00:00 Istanbul: Imagining a multipolar future
04:10 China, India and civilisation states
13:01 Interdependence, sovereignty and globalism
20:07 A new order rooted in the UN Charter
29:21 BRICS and regional alternatives
34:53 Ukraine: Reconstruction and reconciliation
42:26 Empire and the limits of US power
48:53 Building peace and the power of the powerless Receive SMS online on sms24.me
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